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Reef Threads Podcast #250

Should we take marine animals from the reefs for our viewing pleasure?

In our 250th podcast, a discussion about marine-fish captive breeding and Orca breeding leads to an exchange about keeping wild animals captive, the current state of our hobby, and how collecting and keeping marine animals fits in the larger animal-treatment arena. Basically, we address some difficult questions. After you’ve listened, share your thoughts here or on the Reef Threads Facebook page.

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Attention: European Aquarists

Aquarium tank public domainEurogroup for Animals (based in Brussels) is asking MEPs, ahead of the May elections, to sign a pledge to work towards banning the import of wild caught animals OATA (The Ornamental Aquatic Trade Association) Chief Executive Keith Davenport sees it as the hobby being under threat: “Taken to its logical conclusion this would mean if you want to keep tropical marine or freshwater fish, corals, soft corals or other invertebrates you might as well forget it. All of these are either wild-caught and/or exotic, which means they’re not native to the UK, so they would no longer be available to buy.” OATA is urging keen fish keepers to contact MEPs to urge them not to sign the Eurogroup for Animals pledge.  A special #handsoffmyhobby campaign has been launched to get passionate aquarium hobbyists to shout about what they love about keeping fish. We’re all for keeping the hobby going, but at what cost? Is this pledge not a step in the right direction?  Should exotics be included in the pledge?  Should they not rather say that all exotics should be captive bred?  Why not tell them what you think.  Have a look at: for more.… More:

Long Island Collecting Log, Part 1: October Magic

Seining for tropicals on a cool October morning

Seining for tropicals on a cool October morning

 As the days shorten and the nights get colder in New York, the beach crowds and SCUBA divers give way to cold north winds and bundled-up fishermen, cashing in on the fall striped bass migration.  Between the less-than-favorable weather, and the need to return to winter routines, many tropical fish collectors around here have thrown in the towel for the season.  But we die-hards have a secret.  … More:

CORAL Interview: Ken Nedimyer

Ken Nedimyer with a tray of Staghorn Corals for replanting a damaged reef. Originally posted: November 2009 Ed Haag talks with Ken Nedimyer, CORAL November/December 2009 In 1977, a major cold front struck the southeastern seaboard of the U.S. Snow fell in the Florida Keys and the water temperatures plunged in that normally tropical environment. Ken Nedimyer, a young reef fish collector from Key Largo, bore witness to the first of several events that, collectively, would drive the region’s most dominant species of coral to the brink of extinction. Over the next three decades, Nedimyer’s life and the lives of his state’s threatened coral reefs have been inexorably intertwined as he, and others who share his passion for Florida’s diverse reef environment, have struggled to make sense of the mass die-off of some of the Keys’ oldest and best-adapted aquatic residents. For Nedimyer, just understanding this new phenomenon was not enough. His objective from the outset was to use that understanding to stop and ultimately reverse this destructive process. “Ken Nedimyer is a real-life aquaculture action hero,” says Jeff Turner, head of Reef Aquaria Design, the creator of the Smithsonian Institution’s critically acclaimed new 1,500-gallon reef aquarium. “He is doing something for our reef systems every day. He is not just talking about it.” Dead Elkhorn Coral on Molasses Reef, which Nedimyer hopes to restore. Such praise for a marine fish and invertebrate collector is significant—especially in Florida, where such activities are often viewed with great skepticism. But for all who know him, Nedimyer is one of those special individuals who puts much more into preserving and restoring Florida’s fragile reef environment than he could ever remove as a commercial collector of marine organisms for the aquarium trade. Turner cites, as an example, Nedimyer’s establishment of one of the world’s first live-rock nurseries off Tavernier Key in 2001. Nedimyer was given state and federal permits to lease a designated underwater site to raise and sell live rock to his customers. The permit system was created to help compensate commercial collectors for their lost revenue after a ban on removing wild live rock was put into effect in Florida. One of the unforeseen developments emerging from the creation of Nedimyer’s nursery was the settling of natural coral colonies on his live rock. “At that point Kenny legally owned both the rock and the coral growing on it. He had every right to sell it privately and make a lot of money,” says Turner. “Instead, he chose not to sell the coral but rather to cultivate it.” He adds that Nedimyer willingly sacrificed short-term profit for the longer-term goal of enhancing the biodiversity of his nursery as a repository for Florida’s at-risk corals. The nursery is now home to 3,500 stony coral colonies, many of which are Staghorn Coral (Acropora cervicornis), the once-common Florida coral that was listed as threatened under the Endangered Species Act in 2006. Nedimyer’s coral repository serves as a resource base, providing genetic stock for the propagation of stress-resistant coral strains as well as actual cuttings for reef restoration throughout southern Florida. Young transplanted coral colony attached to hard substrate on Molasses Reef. “Ken has worked extensively with the state and nonprofit organizations like The Nature Conservancy to guide the dispersal of corals selected for their resistance to the stressors that have caused the demise of so many of Florida’s corals,” says Martin A. Moe, Jr., the noted marine biologist and aquaculture pioneer. “Without Ken’s initial work there would be little or no coral restoration in the Florida straits.” Nedimyer is a member of the Coral Advisory Panel for the South Atlantic Fishery Management Council and president of the Florida Marine Life Association. He is also co-chair of the Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary Advisory Council and represents the marine life fishery and other commercial fishing interests. In addition to his involvement in the commercial side of fish collection, Nedimyer has established a nonprofit, 501c(3) corporation to expand his restoration work to other areas of the Keys and the Caribbean. Early this year, the Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary, along with the National Marine Fisheries Service, issued permits allowing Nedimyer to start a second coral nursery, one that will focus on propagating Elkhorn Coral (Acropora palmata), another threatened Florida native. CORAL Magazine chatted with Ken Nedimyer over a box lunch at a coral restoration conference being held at Marathon Key, Florida, an hour’s drive south of his home in Key Largo. Five-year-old transplanted Staghorn Coral displaying rapid growth potential. CORAL: Tell us what you believe led to the massive coral die-off in the Florida Straits beginning in the late 1970s. Nedimyer: There is no single reason for the decline. Instead, it was caused by a series of events—beginning with a number of really strong cold fronts in 1977, when it actually snowed in Islamorada and the water temperatures really dropped, killing a lot of the Staghorn and Elkhorn Corals. The ones that weren’t killed were weakened by the cold. The initial event happened in February, and by June of that year we had the first outbreak of White Band Disease. CORAL: So that was just the beginning? Nedimyer: Yes, following that initial event a lot more corals died. In 1980 we had a major bleaching event, and in 1983 almost all the Diadema antillarum sea urchins died off. This was followed by some very destructive hurricanes. The corals could have recovered from any one of those events, but the accumulation of all of them has forced the corals across the tipping point into a very serious decline. CORAL: What condition are the corals in now? Nedimyer: The dominant coral in Florida was the Staghorn. Now the population is between 2% and 3% of what it was before 1977. When a population drops to those levels, it’s tough enough to turn things around, but to make matters worse, there are other stressors out there attacking our corals. For instance, the impact of the 1983 urchin die-off on coral recovery has been grossly underrated. The loss of the sea urchins has disrupted the ability of most of these corals to reproduce successfully. Until the urchins are restored to something close to their former numbers, any success in bringing back the corals will be limited. CORAL: How does the loss of an urchin population impact coral reproduction? Nedimyer: The Diadema are the grazers—they scrape the microalgae off the hard surfaces and take a thin layer of the calcium carbonate. This opens up the environment for the encrusting coralline algae, which are known to produce strong (chemical) settlement cues for coral larvae. Simply put, without the urchin activity, the coral reproductive process is severely compromised. Volunteers cleaning farmed colonies of Acropora cernivornis. CORAL: What you are saying is that the sea urchin is a keystone species essential to long-term reef health and viability? Nedimyer: Some might argue with that, but from my observations I would say that is true. CORAL: What can be done to reverse coral loss in the Keys? Nedimyer: When you get down to the kind of populations we see now, it can be very difficult. That said, there is some good news. Unlike a boulder coral head, which takes 200 years to reach the size of a small table, a comparable Staghorn or Elkhorn thicket might be only four or five years old. In our nursery, a ¾–inch (2-cm) cutting will grow up to 15¾ inches (40 cm) of branches in a year’s time. That is one reason why we have focused our restoration efforts on these corals—we can see the results of our work in a relatively short period of time. CORAL: I believe you were the first person to successfully develop a technique for glueing live coral cuttings to hard surfaces in order to start new colonies. How did that come about? Nedimyer: It developed out of my daughter Kelly’s 4-H project. Originally we were going to grow coral and sell it to the aquarium trade, just like the 4-H kids up north raised and sold pigs and chickens. We never did sell any. We changed our minds halfway through and turned it into an ongoing service project that focused on outreach, education, and eventually, restoration. CORAL: Is that option still open to those who wish to raise and sell Florida corals? Nedimyer: Not since they were listed as a threatened species. Now, there is a federal rule that prohibits the collection, sale, or transport of these corals without a permit. Even if I were to give one to somebody, he or she would have to have a federal permit to own it. CORAL: Can you give us an example of your coral transplanting technique being used in a restoration project, and tell us about the outcome? Nedimyer: In 1984, the cargo freighter Wellwood ran aground on Molasses Reef in the Key Largo National Marine Sanctuary. It plowed straight in at full speed, ending up on top of the reef and smashing everything under it. At the time, this was the most popular dive reef in the world. It took them a couple of weeks to get the freighter off and another 10 years to get any money for damages from the owners of the freighter. In 2001, they filled in some of the cracks in the reef with concrete and created 28 modules (large table-sized piles of limestone rock) to give the site some of the contours it had lost when it was flattened by the freighter. In October of 2003, my daughter Kelly and I were given our first planting site on Molasses Reef—a module on the outer edge of the original grounding. Six corals were planted initially. Now, six years later, there are at least 500 direct descendants of those original plantings, and the site has literally blossomed. Even after three years, a change was obvious. Our corals were already providing shelter and a canopy for all sorts of invertebrates, and there were juvenile fish everywhere—wrasses, Redspotted Hawkfish, Rock Beauties—all living in our coral system. In contrast, 15 feet away there was a module we hadn’t planted coral on and it didn’t have anything like what we had on our site—no fish, no invertebrates, nothing. There was a huge difference between the planted site and the one we didn’t plant. CORAL: Obviously, you are passionate about the work you do on behalf of reef ecology. Does your family share that passion? Are they directly involved in restoration? Nedimyer: Yes, my wife, Denise, and three of my four daughters have done a whole lot of on-site reef work. One daughter just doesn’t care that much for diving, but she has gone out and helped us as a team leader. They all love the coral reefs as much as I do and are excited about what is happening with the nursery and the restorations. Working together as a family has been a lot of fun. CORAL: It is obvious from your accomplishments that your commitment to your nursery and reef restoration is huge. What has been the effect on your fish-collection business? Nedimyer: I have been in the fish-collection business for 31 years, and it has been good to me. I know it inside out, but recently I haven’t had as much time to put into the business as I have in years past. To be honest, my passion has now moved on to reef restoration, and if I am to participate in a meaningful way in a major grant to restore coral funded by the NOAA Restoration Center with funds from an American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) grant, I am almost mandated to divest myself of my fish-collection business. CORAL: So what is your plan? Nedimyer: I will continue to manage my live rock business, but I will turn the day-to-day running of my tropical-fish business over to Kara, my oldest daughter, who has worked with me for years. CORAL: Tell us more about your new coral restoration grant. Nedimyer: This is probably the biggest coral restoration grant given anywhere. It is a $3.3 million federal stimulus grant managed by NOAA and The Nature Conservancy to do what I have done with our nursery, but on a much bigger scale. TNC is the lead nonprofit organization on the project, but there are many others, including Mote Marine Laboratory, Nova Southeastern University, the University of Miami, Biscayne National Park, and Dry Tortugas National Park. CORAL: From your participant list, it looks like the project will involve much more than the Upper Keys. Nedimyer: Our ultimate objective is to have people up and down the Florida Keys building coral nurseries just like mine, growing them up to second and third generations and doing restoration projects based on what we have done up until now. The grant provides for the creation of six separate nurseries in Florida and two in the Virgin Islands. Our Foundation is going to add a ninth one in the Key West area. CORAL: It sounds like this project will require a whole lot of volunteer manpower. Nedimyer: No question about it. But I think there are people who would love to be part of this project—for example, CORAL’s readers. Growing up as an aquarist has shaped my life. Much of my love for coral reefs comes from owning an aquarium, reading about it, and trying to understand how to keep these critters alive. The aquarium community is so in touch, so well informed, it would be great to get them down here, working with us to help turn the clock back on these reefs. Text/photos: Ed Haag, Coral Magazine Contact: Coral Restoration Foundation Key Largo, Florida Nonprofit educational organization active in reef restoration and coral cultivation; conducts workshops on propagating and reestablishing threatened stony corals. Sea Life Inc. PO Box 712 Tavernier, FL 33070 The Nedimyer family’s collection business, offering sustainably harvested Florida Keys marine fishes, invertebrates, and cultured live rock.

Varied diet for Marine Fish

A varied diet for marine fish has been know by the experts and breeders as the best option for optimal health and survivability.  Recently I have been experimenting with some unconventional foods with great results, namely foods that are often enjoyed by humans.  I have chosen these foods with proper nutritional requirements for marine fish in mind.  Foods  such as broccoli,  cauliflower,  cabbage,  spinach, along with some meaty foods, such as fish roe,  oysters, table shrimp, and marine fish filet.  The best results being with broccoli and oysters, as these both were readily accepted by fish known to be carnivorous, as well as herbivorous and omnivorous.  This Amphiprion percula mainly believed to prefer meaty foods, eagerly consumes this broccoli along with the Zebrasoma flavescens and Paracanthurus hepatus.  These are both surgeon fish and known to enjoy a diet high in vegetable matter.  Subsequently,  the surgeon fish eagerly consume the oyster meat and other meaty foods.  I have also noticed an increased appetite with some pigment and color improvements after trying these alternate foods within only a few weeks.  Finicky eaters such as Pseudanthias can also be seen eating pieces of broccoli as it floats away from all the commotion at the veggie clip. 1broccolliMore:

Coldwater Marine Aquatics Keeps Momentum with Recent Japanese Imports

 Just one month ago, we reported on the availability of some unusual species offered by temperate marine aquarium livestock specialists Coldwater Marine Aquatics. Apparently quite intent on making inroads into the aquarium hobbyist market, the Oregon-based retailers have been steadily increasing the selection of quality temperate marine fish and invertebrates that can be had at a reasonable price. Their own availability list has undoubtedly been greatly enhanced by last week’s acquisition of the much sought-after Lethotremus awae, the Dango-uo lumpfish. The species has a rather small Northwest Pacific distribution, occurring exclusively in the east coast of central Japan and the Yellow Sea near Chefoo, China. Cold Water Marine Aquatics tells us that they have obtained these specimens from a Japanese collector. The same source has provided them with Dango-uo in other recent shipments, which also included pygmy filefish, rooster waspfish and some impressive bat stars. Future shipments will likely include Eumicrotremus taranetzi, the Name-dango (the very ones that have been seen stuck to balloons in displays in Japan). Public aquariums snatched up the latest batch of Dango-uo before many hobbyists were even aware that they were available. So, with private demand still reasonably high, plans for forthcoming shipments are already in the making.… More:

Mega Home Aquariums in the Middle East Part 1

MEGA Home Aquariums in the Middle East

A 500,000 gallon Residential Aquarium Photo: by

 Have you ever wanted a 500,000 gallon shark tank complete with a huge acrylic tunnel in your living room? Perhaps something a little smaller like a giant reef tank on board your mega yacht?  While these immense and hugely expensive aquariums sound like fantasy, they are in fact very real and thriving aquatic systems in the Middle East! I had the pleasure of designing and managing many such private super-aquariums during my tenure as Director of Operations and Corporate Curator from 2004 to 2009 at Issham Aquatics , one of the Middle East’s largest public and commercial aquarium construction and management company. 
A 150,000 gallon Mega Home Aquarium in the Middle East. Photo by

A 150,000 gallon Mega Home Aquarium in the Middle East. Photo by

 These mega home aquariums are designed, built and staffed better than many modern public aquariums. They use the highest quality construction materials and are even staffed by experienced “western” marine biologists.  One of the largest residential aquariums on the planet is over 500,000 gallons in volume and is located in a royal palace in the middle of the Saudi desert, a thousand miles from any source of saltwater. The aquarium houses  dozens of sharks and rays;  some of which were captive bred at Issham’s headquarters and R&D facility on the Red Sea in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. The immense aquarium took over 2 years to complete and is staffed by seven full-time aquarists and LSS techs as well as an experienced aquarium curator from England. One of my personal favorite shopping trips included chartering an ex-military… More:

Garlic bad for fish? Rambling about forum propaganda.

Where does this statement come from? Has anyone actually done a study on the effects of feeding the fish in our aquariums foods soaked in garlic?  Since I first read the comment made by a member of a popular forum I frequent, I have fruitlessly searched the WWW for any credible publication stating that garlic is or may be harmful to the function of marine fish livers.… More: is the world's leading destination for sustainable coral reef farming and the aquarium hobby. We offer a free open forum and reef related news and data to better educate aquarists and further our goals of sustainable reef management.