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Honestly Anthony, I wouldn't even bother with Vodka. I think it'd be hard to transition from one carbon dosing system to another, but that's just my opinion.


FWIW, now that I have my carbon reactor going strong, (a need with the Zeovit system) I'm going to order the Zeostart2 and Zeobak. I'm not going to use the zeovit stones for now.
Just curious why you are not using the Zeolites? I'm concerned because it seems like another person that could have trouble. Why not just follow the correct method?
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I don't have a great answer for that, really. I know that you can reduce nitrates and phosphates by adding a carbon source and bacteria to the system. (IE: vodka and MB7)

I'm figuring that you can use the Zeostart2 and Zeobak and go without the Zeovit stones. Quite frankly, the Zeovit Reactors are all pretty expensive (overpriced, IMO) and most have to be used internally. Unfortunately there just isn't any room in my sump for a reactor that size.
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There not that big and not alot of money. $140 is not alot in this hobby and they do make and ext zoe reactor you have to look around
 
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And if your doing what is says on the bottle your going to crash your tank because that if your using zeolight with that .You have to cut dosing in half what the bottle says if your not using zeolight with it..
 
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I agree that for the most part, $140 isn't a lot in this hobby, but it's a lot for a $35 reactor with a pvc pipe added on to stir up the stones, and it turns into a $140 reactor. The only externals I've seen have been in the $300-400 range.
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Be very careful when dosing on your own. There are many things that can go wrong and people will not be able to give advice because your kinda playing with your water chemistry with your dosages. Some issues that can occur are blooms of bacteria, blooms of cyanobacteria, rapid bleaching or tissue necrosis from change in biochemistry, etc...

I just wanna caution that Zeovit was created to work a certain way. True there are many supplements that can be dosed in a regular system without Zeovit such as the foods, Coral Vitalizer, Pohl's Xtra, K-Iodide, etc... But the Basic 4 for creating a ULNS is not something that should be broken up. These 4 elements are the key elements to running a full Zeo System. Zeobac, ZeoStart2, Sponge Power, and Zeovit (Zeolites).
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i thought that pastel colors were achieved by the means of reducing the symbiotic zoo algae? maybe zeovit provides a means of nutrition for corals if their zoo populations are decreased as well as other factors such as the reducing of waste before it turns to ammonia. but i wouldn't know just my 2 cents.
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Yes thats how the zoevit system works
 
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i thought that pastel colors were achieved by the means of reducing the symbiotic zoo algae? maybe zeovit provides a means of nutrition for corals if their zoo populations are decreased as well as other factors such as the reducing of waste before it turns to ammonia. but i wouldn't know just my 2 cents.
Which is why this method has always seemed strange to me. Can it be a good thing long term to selectively starve off the very evolutionary adaptation that enables corals to exist in the 1st place----the symbiosis with zoox? Even if you can selectively supplement the nutritional requirements via various potions and elixirs ( which it seems you can ) I can't help but think this is stressful and quite unnatural for the animals.
 
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Which is why this method has always seemed strange to me. Can it be a good thing long term to selectively starve off the very evolutionary adaptation that enables corals to exist in the 1st place----the symbiosis with zoox? Even if you can selectively supplement the nutritional requirements via various potions and elixirs ( which it seems you can ) I can't help but think this is stressful and quite unnatural for the animals.

Its not starve off the corals its supplying the nutrients to the sps. If the sps are not getting the nutrients it needs the symbiotic zoo algae will appears and it will feed of that .
 
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